The material is thicker and very stiff. Also lacking in durability. Seems they have zero control over their computer systems. The fabric is fragile and not for long term use.

Pants are okay, but sizing is horrible as other buyers have mentioned. After 5 minutes of wearing them, they are all wrinkled. Pulled the belt loop off and had to sew on first day.

Back pocket loses wallet unless buttoned. Slash pockets lose change and car keys when you especially in the car. The pockets are shallow and easily shed their contents when you sit down.