A little mad because it said these pen were waterproof n there not i got a waterproos notebook n said hey might as well get wp pens well i wrote with them on my wp pad n ran it under water in my sink n the ink rain off honestley dont wast ur time if u want a good pen get the gisher space 1u can actuley write under water with it good quality although have not used it sealed packaging and the covers show to the closed and sealed back