Build quality is (so far) excellent, they also look great and shell size is relatively small - amazing considering they have pa...  Read More

Build quality is (so far) excellent, they also look great and shell size is relatively small - amazing considering they have packed 7 drivers in - and are really comfortable for me.  Read Less

The audio quality is not perfect, the treble seems dull (some people may prefer this compromise vs listening to poor recordings...  Read More

The audio quality is not perfect, the treble seems dull (some people may prefer this compromise vs listening to poor recordings with 'correct' treble), and there is a processed or slightly disjointed feeling to music compared to what i experience with the p1s and believes, which i think is characteristic of a multiple balanced armature driver array.  Read Less

I do not consider myself sceptical on the matter of whether cables can effect sound quality, but i have only ever bought differ...  Read More

I do not consider myself sceptical on the matter of whether cables can effect sound quality, but i have only ever bought different cables for my iems because i wanted to run them balanced, i never thought that there was anything wrong with the supplied cables.  Read Less

However i found other owners criticising the stock cable online, so i tried swapping the cable i was using with the believes (k...  Read More

However i found other owners criticising the stock cable online, so i tried swapping the cable i was using with the believes (kbear 16 core ofc), i was surprised at the improvement this made, and the extent to which the believes degraded with the mangird cable was even more obvious.  Read Less

5mm balanced cable (to use with a fiio btr5 which is a great combo) but i kept wanting to plug them into 3.

5mm balanced cable (to use with a fiio btr5 which is a great combo) but i kept wanting to plug them into 3.  Read Less

They are underground kings of iems and sound fantastic for my library which is mainly rock/metal but with other genres here and there.

They are underground kings of iems and sound fantastic for my library which is mainly rock/metal but with other genres here and there.  Read Less

I also think that the acrylic shell is adding a 'plasticy' resonance, which i don't hear with metal-bodied iems.

I also think that the acrylic shell is adding a 'plasticy' resonance, which i don't hear with metal-bodied iems.  Read Less

The headphones are great, very clear sound, clearer than the fischer amps fa 4exb which some bloke on the internet said were be...  Read More

The headphones are great, very clear sound, clearer than the fischer amps fa 4exb which some bloke on the internet said were better than shure se535's.  Read Less